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Yanny  | | 08. Sep 2010, 11:53 |
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| Geits.
Budda ir dievs?
Muhameds - ir dievs?
Krišna - ir dievs?
viņi sevi tā sauc? ko viņi par sevi saka?
nu tas tā. pārdomām 
p.s. ko Muhameds saka par Kristu? [ Šo ziņu laboja Yanny, 08 Sep 2010, 11:59:12 ]
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| Islamic apologists recognize the clear and abundant contradictions between the Qur'an and the Bible, and therefore charge that the Bible was tampered with, though the amount of alterations required to explain the Qur'anic deviations from Biblical text would require a significant amount of changes to the Old Testament and virtually a complete rewriting of the New.
However, Christian apologists respond to these charges by evidencing that an abundance of manuscripts which predate the Qur'an yet exist,1 such as the Codex Sinaiticus (c. 350 AD), with Aland numbering a total of 230 extant New Testament manuscript portions which pre-date 600 AD (192 Greek New Testament manuscripts, 5 Greek lectionaries containing scripture, and 33 translations of the Greek New Testament). (Kurt and Barbara Aland, 1987:82-83)2 The doctrinal agreement of these with later manuscripts manifest that no such manner of alterations or rewriting took place. 3 4
In addition, it is postulated that if Muhammad could not read, as Islam states, then he would have relied upon the word of others (travelers, etc.) who were overall likely to be significantly Biblically illiterate.5 This would explain how Muhammad could reprove such things as the Christian Trinity consisting of God, Jesus and Mary,6 (Sura 5:116-117) in addition to speaking numerous contradictions of the Bible.
In response, Muslim apologists seek to make a case against a reliable Bible based upon the lack of a universal canon among all Christian churches, or early incomplete manuscripts, or additions to them (''the Epistle of Barnabas'', and portions of ''The Shepherd of Hermas'' to Codex Sinaiticus), as well a relatively small degree of actual (beyond spelling, etc.) textual disagreement 7 among some of the thousands of existing manuscripts. However, none of these aspects provides a solution to the Islamic problem, as none of the manuscripts substantiate the Qur'anic deviations, nor does the small percentage (contrary to typical Muslim exaggeration) of actual variants among manuscripts support the manner of massive changes which the Islamic solution requires. Moreover, the Qur'an, for which there is no manuscripts evidence for over 100 years after it was said to be given,8 evidences its own problematic texts,9 even though it is a far smaller (in size and scope) book, and one that was written after durable writing materials came into use, and then underwent a purification process in which variant manuscripts were burned.10 The conclusion is that “manuscript, as well as documentary and archaeological evidence indicates that much of what the Qur'an maintains does not coincide with the historical data at our disposal which comes from that period.”11
Some assert that the predominant religion after the 4th century, that of Roman Catholicism, changed the Bible. However, apart from the difficulties this assertion faces, if that was their case then Rome did a very poor job as the Bible (which they once forbade the public to read) soundly reproves the aberrations of Christianity which the Roman church has historically manifested. (Mt. 15:1-14; 24; 2Cor.11:1-4, 12-15; Gal.1:6-9; etc.].
Thus it is seen that it is the Qur'an which has changed what God revealed in the Bible, which seeking to use the Bible as a basis of authority.
While Muslims also typically claim that the text of the Qur'an is identical to that received by Muhammad, Christian researchers contend that there is overwhelming evidence that it is not.12
As no extant Biblical manuscript, from before the time of Muhammed or after him, agrees with the Quranic contradictions, many Muslim apologists look to the so-called Gospel of Barnabas for support. However, this radically different account is judged by both Christian and secular academics (and even some Muslims such as Abbas el-Akkad) to be a late work and pseudepigraphical. With its obvious anachronisms and historical errors (like sailing to Nazareth) and utter lack of early manuscript evidence and irreconcilable differences between it and any ancient manuscripts, it is manifest to be a fourteenth century attempt to read later Islamic doctrine into the Bible, which clearly refutes i
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| BNM-BMW | | 08. Sep 2010, 21:07 |
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08 Sep 2010, 10:04:12 Speed3 rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 05:32:12 Daimonc rakstīja:
07 Sep 2010, 19:34:19 Didzis rakstīja:
Kā ir, tā ir
Nožēlojami. Agrāk kristiešu dievs kāva sliktos, iznīdēja tūkstošiem tautiešu kkādas herņas dēļ un bija agresīvs, ļaunatminīgs un nepielūdzams, kā jau dievam pienākas. Mūsdienās viņš atbalsta geju laulības un pārvērties par bezdzimuma radījumu.
Mīļais cilvēk, kāds šim sakars ar Dievu?
Uz To Tev nevarēs atbildi sniegt . . . 
P.S. Es Jūtos Labi
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| ledusskapis- | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:27 |
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| Shodien viss Saldus centrs sleegts deelj kaukaadiem sektantiem. vazaajaas ar katrogiem un kaukaadu meeslu verveleeja. itkaa par ielu piemesloshanu esot sods no 50 - 500 ls, bet kapeec tie var kaukaadus sudus metaat un visas ielas piemeeslot?
Gaaja cauri uz savu romas katolju "bazniicu". bazniica jau vairaak izskataas peec loti labas savrupmaajas ar melnu land cruiseru pagalmaa.
bet nu es esmu tagat sliktais un dievs mani sodiis jo nostaajos netaalu sektantu kollonai un pilnaa skaljumaa ar logiem valjaa uzliku
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| Norchx | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:30 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:27:10 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
Shodien viss Saldus centrs sleegts deelj kaukaadiem sektantiem. vazaajaas ar katrogiem un kaukaadu meeslu verveleeja. itkaa par ielu piemesloshanu esot sods no 50 - 500 ls, bet kapeec tie var kaukaadus sudus metaat un visas ielas piemeeslot?
Gaaja cauri uz savu romas katolju "bazniicu". bazniica jau vairaak izskataas peec loti labas savrupmaajas ar melnu land cruiseru pagalmaa.
bet nu es esmu tagat sliktais un dievs mani sodiis jo nostaajos netaalu sektantu kollonai un pilnaa skaljumaa ar logiem valjaa uzliku
Disturbed_-_Another_Way_To_Die
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| BNM-BMW | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:33 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:30:41 Norchx rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 22:27:10 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
Shodien viss Saldus centrs sleegts deelj kaukaadiem sektantiem. vazaajaas ar katrogiem un kaukaadu meeslu verveleeja. itkaa par ielu piemesloshanu esot sods no 50 - 500 ls, bet kapeec tie var kaukaadus sudus metaat un visas ielas piemeeslot?
Gaaja cauri uz savu romas katolju "bazniicu". bazniica jau vairaak izskataas peec loti labas savrupmaajas ar melnu land cruiseru pagalmaa.
bet nu es esmu tagat sliktais un dievs mani sodiis jo nostaajos netaalu sektantu kollonai un pilnaa skaljumaa ar logiem valjaa uzliku
Disturbed_-_Another_Way_To_Die
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| RolandsK | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:37 |
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| Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus. |
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| ledusskapis- | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:38 |
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| uz mani gan viena babene raadiija 
reku lapa tai sektai
Saldus sekta
taas butkas bilde tik zimeeta. riit uztaisiishu paris foto. tur pamatiigs $ ielikts tajaa "bazniicaa"
zeel tos cilveekus kas tam tic 
p.s. pats esmu kristiits un berniibaa dzina iekshaa visu shito un lika maciities taas visas teevu reizes vai kaa tur. |
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| BNM-BMW | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:38 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:37:19 RolandsK rakstīja:
Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus.
Katram ir jāizaug pašam . . .
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| ledusskapis- | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:42 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:37:19 RolandsK rakstīja:
Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus.
es respekteeju citus, bet ne sektantus. tev pasham jaredz tas viss un jaizdara secinaajumi. kuraa bazniicaa esi redzeejis 2. staavaa plazmu un pagalmaa pajaunu cruiseru? |
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| fubuz | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:45 |
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| RolandsK | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:46 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:42:38 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
... kuraa bazniicaa esi redzeejis 2. staavaa plazmu un pagalmaa pajaunu cruiseru?
1) kontroles trūkums no augstāk stāvošajiem;
2) tas lai paliek uz viņu pašu sirdsapziņas. |
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| Norchx | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:47 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:37:19 RolandsK rakstīja:
Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus.
Pieaudzis cilvēks saprot kas ir krāpšana un cilvēku muļķošana |
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| AP79 | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:48 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:42:38 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 22:37:19 RolandsK rakstīja:
Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus.
es respekteeju citus, bet ne sektantus. tev pasham jaredz tas viss un jaizdara secinaajumi. kuraa bazniicaa esi redzeejis 2. staavaa plazmu un pagalmaa pajaunu cruiseru?
Tev no kka cita arii rodas viedoklis ne tikai - bling bling dzhips; lcd "lielais"; "lielaa" maaja utt.
p.s. "pajauns cruisers" nav nekas aarkaarteejs |
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| ledusskapis- | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:51 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:48:16 AP79 rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 22:42:38 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 22:37:19 RolandsK rakstīja:
Bērnišķīgi gājieni. Pieaudzis cilvēks respektē citus.
es respekteeju citus, bet ne sektantus. tev pasham jaredz tas viss un jaizdara secinaajumi. kuraa bazniicaa esi redzeejis 2. staavaa plazmu un pagalmaa pajaunu cruiseru?
Tev no kka cita arii rodas viedoklis ne tikai - bling bling dzhips; lcd "lielais"; "lielaa" maaja utt.
p.s. "pajauns cruisers" nav nekas aarkaarteejs
Iet runa par bazniicu... |
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| ledusskapis- | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:58 |
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Jaunās Saldus Sv. Pētera un Pāvila baznīcas celtniecība aizsākās 1999.gada rudenī. Projektu izstrādājis Saldus arhitekts Aigars Andersons. Baznīca celta par Latvijā un ārvalstīs savāktiem ziedojumiem. Arī draudzes locekļi ieguldījuši daudz darba un līdzekļu, lai baznīcu uzceltu. Baznīcas celtniecība un labiekārtošana pabeigta 2008.gadā.
Pašlaik Saldus draudzē ir 2000 draudzes locekļu, tajā kalpo prāvests Andrejs Mediņš.
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| BNM-BMW | | 08. Sep 2010, 22:59 |
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| Paldies J K par Bībeli
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| e28addicted | | 08. Sep 2010, 23:07 |
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| Speed3 | | 09. Sep 2010, 09:17 |
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08 Sep 2010, 22:38:40 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
p.s. pats esmu kristiits un berniibaa dzina iekshaa visu shito un lika maciities taas visas teevu reizes vai kaa tur.
Un ko tad tu vari teikt par Tēvreizi?[ Šo ziņu laboja Speed3, 09 Sep 2010, 09:17:38 ]
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| gapp | | 09. Sep 2010, 09:23 |
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09 Sep 2010, 09:17:18 Speed3 rakstīja:
08 Sep 2010, 22:38:40 ledusskapis- rakstīja:
p.s. pats esmu kristiits un berniibaa dzina iekshaa visu shito un lika maciities taas visas teevu reizes vai kaa tur.
Un ko tad tu vari teikt par Tēvreizi?
Tēvreize bija pantiņš/dzejolis, kuru bērnībā bija jāiemācās no galvas. Nāves briesmās droši vien, ka cilvēks skaitītu šo te, ja vien būtu iemācījies, tā tas vismaz bērnībā bija "ieborēts", ka "dieviņš" palīdzēs. |
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