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| raivisp | |  Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8620
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12 Aug 2008, 14:29:11 mx_kanskis rakstīja:
12 Aug 2008, 14:21:47 shibernieks rakstīja:
tantuks beidzot atrada par ko parunāties 
Tupuma kalnagals
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moro  | | Kopš: 20. Feb 2007
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Kopš 1992. gāda Dagomisa līguma parrakstīšanas Dienvidosetijaa mieru kopīgi uzturēja mieru uzturetāji no Gruzijas, Krievijas un Osetijas (SKK, smeshannaja kontroljnaja komissija).
Ceturtdien Gruzijas karaspeeks bez kaara pasludinashanas uzbruuka D-Osetijas galvaspilseetai, izdemoleejot civilus objektus. | | Offline | | |
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12 Aug 2008, 14:32:06 raivisp rakstīja:
12 Aug 2008, 14:29:11 mx_kanskis rakstīja:
12 Aug 2008, 14:21:47 shibernieks rakstīja:
tantuks beidzot atrada par ko parunāties
Tupuma kalnagals
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ar baileem veeru valjaa linku un tieshi domaaju kaut taa nebuutu vinja
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| Emix | |  Kopš: 01. Apr 2007
No: Rīga
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12 Aug 2008, 14:32:25 moro rakstīja:
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Kopš 1992. gāda Dagomisa līguma parrakstīšanas Dienvidosetijaa mieru kopīgi uzturēja mieru uzturetāji no Gruzijas, Krievijas un Osetijas (SKK, smeshannaja kontroljnaja komissija).
Ceturtdien Gruzijas karaspeeks bez kaara pasludinashanas uzbruuka D-Osetijas galvaspilseetai, izdemoleejot civilus objektus.
kārtējais propogandas upuris 
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| raivisp | | Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8620
Braucu ar: to kas pagalmā mētājas
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12 Aug 2008, 14:32:25 moro rakstīja:
Divi fakti:
Kopš 1992. gāda Dagomisa līguma parrakstīšanas Dienvidosetijaa mieru kopīgi uzturēja mieru uzturetāji no Gruzijas, Krievijas un Osetijas (SKK, smeshannaja kontroljnaja komissija).
Ceturtdien Gruzijas karaspeeks bez kaara pasludinashanas uzbruuka D-Osetijas galvaspilseetai, izdemoleejot civilus objektus.
no kurienes Tev shaada informaacija? no Krievijas zinju kanaaliem?  | | Offline | | |
| shibernieks | |  Kopš: 12. Aug 2004
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| raivisp | | Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
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12 Aug 2008, 14:36:36 shibernieks rakstīja:
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| Emix | | Kopš: 01. Apr 2007
No: Rīga
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| Pāris Gruzijas studenti ir apkopojuši savo viedokli, neliels ieskats tajā....
Note: This is a brief document that summarizes the facts that took place during the last days on the territory of Georgia. This paper focuses on the qualification of the current facts with respect to the situation between Russian Federation and Georgia as of August 9, 2008. This document represent a copyright of a small group of Students from Georgia, who remain solely responsible to all interpretation given to the facts in context of Jus Ad Bellum and Jus in Bello and does not represent an official opinion of any Government, Institution or Agency.
Introduction
In the last couple of days the situation in Georgia has dramatically changed. Currently Georgia is in State of War. Namely, in violation with the principles enshrined in the UN Charter, the Russian Federation has used force against the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Georgia, thus forcing Georgia to act in self-defense in accordance with requirements given in article 51 of the UN Charter. It is also contended, that Georgia is in situation of an international armed conflict with the Russian Federation which governed by the relevant rules of the International Humanitarian Law and unfortunately, the Russian Federation is committing grave violation of the rules of humanitarian law by targeting civilian population and cities, rather than directing its attacks against military objective.
Factual Situation on Grounds
From early hours of August 8, the armed attack was launched against Georgia by Russian Federation. The territory next to South Ossetia (Tskinvali Regions) in particular cities of Gori, Kareli and nearby villages, were bombed. In particular two SU 24 type fighter jets violated the airspace, intruded into the territory of Georgia from Russian Federation and bombed radar station located in Gori region. A missile was also dropped in the village of Variani as a result of which 7 persons were injured. Around 11:30 a.m. four SU 24 fighter jets entered the airspace of Georgia. 2 bombs were dropped at the police office building in Kareli, as a result of which several persons were injured.
Moreover since the 7th of August 2008, 3 columns consisting of hundreds of armed personnel as well as tens of heavy armed vehicles were entering region of Georgia - South Ossetia, via Rocki tunnel, from the Russian Federation.
From the second part of the day (8th of August 200 , following cities have been bombed by the fighter jets entering territory of Georgia from the Russian Federation:
- City of Gori and nearby areas;
- Black Sea Port Poti;
- Upper Abkhazian territory;
- Villages such as Senaki, Khoni and Oni;
There are casualties among civilian population in all the aforementioned places, as the bombing has been directed towards the cities and villages per se indiscriminately. Currently, according to official information 57 civilians had been killed in course of the hostilities.
The aforementioned facts have been preceded by an escalated situation in the Tskhinvali Region of Georgia from 1st of August 2008, when the attacks have been carried out by the representatives of the Separatist regime of South Ossetia (Tskinvali Region). Georgian villages – Upper and Lower Niqozi, Avnevi, Ergneti and Eredvi were subjected to the heavy fire from machine-guns and grenades. The fire was lead in the direction of check-points of Georgian peacekeepers and police. As a result of an intensive shelling, 6 civilians were injured, houses destroyed. Attacks continued on 5-6 of August, when fire from machineguns and grenades were opened at Georgian village Nulli and Georgia and police checkpoint respectively. On August 7 separatists once again attacked Georgian villages Eredvi, Frisi, Avnevi, dvani and Nulli, as a result of which 2 Georgian peacekeepers were wounded. Later that day the attacks were continued.
The Russian Federation under the pretext of its right to “self-defense of its nationals abroad” decided to enter the territory of Georgia from early hours of 8 of August 2008. Its claims are based on the fact, that the population of the Tskhinvali Region in recent hears has received the citizenship of the Russian Federation. However, currently, as noted above, the military operation by the Russian armed forces are carried out outside the Tskhinvali region and include bombing of the cities of Georgia near the capital Tbilisi as well as of cities and villages that are hundreds of kilometers away from the Tskhinvali Region.
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| Neaizstāvu Gruziju, bet vēlos teikt, ka civilajos objektos visbiežāk slēpjas visi teroristi un seperātisti.
Tie, kas Gruzijai ir ļaunie, tie Krievijai ir labie.
Attiecīgi, ja Gruzija noslauka no zemes virsas kādu vecu ēku, kurā bāzējas kāds seperātistu grupējums, tad Krievija to uztver par uzbrukumu civilajiem, jo Gruzijas ienaidnieks ir viņu draugs.
Kamēr nebūs apstiprinājuma, ka tika iznīcinātas nevainīgu cilvēku ēkas, kurās neslēpās ļaunie, tikmēr šo ziņu neuztveršu ar lielu nopietnību | | Offline | | |
| gapp | | Kopš: 04. Aug 2007
No: Liepāja
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Braucu ar: SD
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12 Aug 2008, 14:32:25 moro rakstīja:
Divi fakti:
Kopš 1992. gāda Dagomisa līguma parrakstīšanas Dienvidosetijaa mieru kopīgi uzturēja mieru uzturetāji no Gruzijas, Krievijas un Osetijas (SKK, smeshannaja kontroljnaja komissija).
Ceturtdien Gruzijas karaspeeks bez kaara pasludinashanas uzbruuka D-Osetijas galvaspilseetai, izdemoleejot civilus objektus.
a kaapeec Gruzijai jaapasludna karš pret savas valsts rajonu? | | Offline | | |
| moro | | Kopš: 20. Feb 2007
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The government of Georgia and South Ossetian separatists reached an agreement to avoid the use of force against one another, and Georgia pledged not to impose sanctions against South Ossetia. However, the Georgian government still retains control over substantial portions of South Ossetia, including the town of Akhalgori.[22] A peacekeeping force of Ossetians, Russians and Georgians was established. On November 6, 1992, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) set up a Mission in Georgia to monitor the peacekeeping operation
Georgian forces and separatists in South Ossetia agree to observe a ceasefire and hold Russian-mediated talks to end their long-simmering conflict.
Hours later, Georgian forces launch a surprise attack, sending a large force against the breakaway province and reaching the capital Tskhinvali.
South Ossetian rebel leader Eduard Kokoity accuses Georgia of a "perfidious and base step".
The head of Georgian forces in South Ossetia says the operation is intended to "restore constitutional order" to the region, while the government says the troops are "neutralising separatist fighters attacking civilians".
Russia's special envoy in South Ossetia, Yury Popov, says Georgia's military operation shows that it cannot be trusted and he calls on Nato to reconsider plans to offer it membership.
In Tskhinvali, many people are reportedly sheltering from the fierce fighting in their cellars. The UN refugee agency says thousands of people have fled and many homes have been destroyed. It says water and food are in short supply.
BBC
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| moro | | Kopš: 20. Feb 2007
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| raivisp | | Kopš: 22. Aug 2006
No: Rīga
Ziņojumi: 8620
Braucu ar: to kas pagalmā mētājas
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12 Aug 2008, 14:40:04 gapp rakstīja:
12 Aug 2008, 14:32:25 moro rakstīja:
Divi fakti:
Kopš 1992. gāda Dagomisa līguma parrakstīšanas Dienvidosetijaa mieru kopīgi uzturēja mieru uzturetāji no Gruzijas, Krievijas un Osetijas (SKK, smeshannaja kontroljnaja komissija).
Ceturtdien Gruzijas karaspeeks bez kaara pasludinashanas uzbruuka D-Osetijas galvaspilseetai, izdemoleejot civilus objektus.
a kaapeec Gruzijai jaapasludna karš pret savas valsts rajonu?
tas taksh pilniigi logjiski! ja to nesaproti, paprasi tatjanai, vai kaadam citam gudram krievam. shie Tev izskaidros | | Offline | | |
| Staris | | Kopš: 24. Apr 2006
No: Ventspils
Ziņojumi: 30603
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12 Aug 2008, 14:44:41 moro rakstīja:
dalab, man viss skaidrs
es vismaz esu palasiijis gan krievu, gan rietumu medijus pirms sheit kko rakstiit
pareizi dari. Galvenais ir mācēt izfiltrēt melus no patiesības un spēt beigās pareizi spriest  | | Offline | | |
| 325TDS | | Kopš: 01. Jan 2007
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12 Aug 2008, 14:46:03 martinsP rakstīja:
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| shibernieks | | Kopš: 12. Aug 2004
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| Staris | | Kopš: 24. Apr 2006
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| Emix | | Kopš: 01. Apr 2007
No: Rīga
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12 Aug 2008, 14:41:57 moro rakstīja:
raivis, emix - juus esat leetie dirseeji
The government of Georgia and South Ossetian separatists reached an agreement to avoid the use of force against one another, and Georgia pledged not to impose sanctions against South Ossetia. However, the Georgian government still retains control over substantial portions of South Ossetia, including the town of Akhalgori.[22] A peacekeeping force of Ossetians, Russians and Georgians was established. On November 6, 1992, the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) set up a Mission in Georgia to monitor the peacekeeping operation
Georgian forces and separatists in South Ossetia agree to observe a ceasefire and hold Russian-mediated talks to end their long-simmering conflict.
Hours later, Georgian forces launch a surprise attack, sending a large force against the breakaway province and reaching the capital Tskhinvali.
South Ossetian rebel leader Eduard Kokoity accuses Georgia of a "perfidious and base step".
The head of Georgian forces in South Ossetia says the operation is intended to "restore constitutional order" to the region, while the government says the troops are "neutralising separatist fighters attacking civilians".
Russia's special envoy in South Ossetia, Yury Popov, says Georgia's military operation shows that it cannot be trusted and he calls on Nato to reconsider plans to offer it membership.
In Tskhinvali, many people are reportedly sheltering from the fierce fighting in their cellars. The UN refugee agency says thousands of people have fled and many homes have been destroyed. It says water and food are in short supply.
BBC
wiki
tevis pieminētie mediji ir nedaudz sabijušies no krievu pārspēka un gudri spriež nezinot patiesos apstākļus. Piektdienas rītā Tskhinvali nebija neviena starptautiskā novērotāja, kas objektīvi spētu novērtēt patieso situāciju, bet tur bija gruzīni. Iespējams, ka tikai retais no mums personīgi pazīst kādu gruzīnu, bet tie kas pazīst noteikti apgalvos, ka laipnākus un viesmīlīgākus cilvēkus reti gadās sastapt. Tie ir cilvēki, kas savas zemes vārdā ir gatavi mirt, bet tas jau ir cits stāsts.....  | | Offline | | |
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